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'''Progress on Pemberton Heights access (Jay)'''
'''Progress on Pemberton Heights access (Jay)'''
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'''IWMB MOTI feasibility study findings (John/Fiona)'''
* Excerpts from the full document released under Freedom of Information request
** Option 1 widen both bridge sidewalks $13M +/- [Based on structural cost information from the Sidewalk Railing Concept Study (Hatch Mott MacDonald, 2009), the cost of widening the sidewalks to just 2.3 m is expected to be in the order of $13 million. Therefore, Option 1 widening to Transportation Association of Canada (TAC) standards for a 2-way, multi-use path (4.0 m, plus shy distance) would likely be significantly more costly.]
** Option 4 Underpass highway at south end cost estimate $2.5M +/-
** Option 5 Overpass highway at south end cost estimate $2.7M +/-
** Option 7 with variations [4.4 Grade Performance of Options 6, 7, 8, and 10 Various north-south routes (Exhibit 9) are compared in profile on Exhibit 10 to assess the effectiveness of Option 7 (Bridgeway Route). There are several possible alignments of Option 7, two of which are illustrated here. The steepness and length of the uphill travel required on the Kootenay Route and Option 7i are particularly challenging. The Skeena Route is similar in steepness but shorter in grade than those two routes.]
* The IWMB Joint Committee has yet to assess the document fully and determine any changes to the strategy and timelines proposed (which were endorsed by the NS Committee last meeting). If so the VACC position paper will be re-presented for NS review.

'''North Vancouver BMP update (John/Jay)'''
* CNV provided a web page link for the forum material (boards with maps) http://www.cnv.org/c/data/3/690/Bicycle_Master_Plan_Update_Open_House_Boards.pdf
* Antje had the following input by email - "none of the maps showed important destinations (schools, shopping centres, community centres) so it's hard to see whether the bike network connects to them or not. Also a lot of bike routes seem to miss (short) connections to nearby routes - but perhaps that's just a mapping/software problem ... happy to see ... a link across the highway near Cedar Village and a new bridge across Lynn Creek."
* Dave Perfitt contributed "Reallocating curb to curb road widths with paint is lower cost metrics with higher 'KM's of bike lanes' metrics. For an alternate example, I'd like to see a spot improvement at 11th and Lonsdale. There is a ped signal that should be adapted to a bike signal too. I mentioned it ... but the rub I got from Staff was that it would be a distraction from the continued extensions of the 13th Street bike lanes."


===Other Business===
===Other Business===

Revision as of 01:16, 8 July 2011

Attendance & Agenda

Welcome new members and guests

  • In attendance:

Guest Presentation

Donna Howes on signage for north end of Lions Gate Bridge

Education & Outreach

Proposed WV Group Ride (Peter)

  • WV White Spot-Taylor Way-Stevens Drive-Glenmore Drive-Capilano Dam-Capilano Road-WV White Spot (12 km, 50 minutes)

update on North Shore Streetwise courses (Heather)

Hot Spots & Issues

Update on Welch Street Upgrade (Peter)

Possible widening of shared curb lanes on Marine Drive between 11 -13th Streets in West Van (Peter)

Progress on Pemberton Heights access (Jay)

IWMB MOTI feasibility study findings (John/Fiona)

  • Excerpts from the full document released under Freedom of Information request
    • Option 1 widen both bridge sidewalks $13M +/- [Based on structural cost information from the Sidewalk Railing Concept Study (Hatch Mott MacDonald, 2009), the cost of widening the sidewalks to just 2.3 m is expected to be in the order of $13 million. Therefore, Option 1 widening to Transportation Association of Canada (TAC) standards for a 2-way, multi-use path (4.0 m, plus shy distance) would likely be significantly more costly.]
    • Option 4 Underpass highway at south end cost estimate $2.5M +/-
    • Option 5 Overpass highway at south end cost estimate $2.7M +/-
    • Option 7 with variations [4.4 Grade Performance of Options 6, 7, 8, and 10 Various north-south routes (Exhibit 9) are compared in profile on Exhibit 10 to assess the effectiveness of Option 7 (Bridgeway Route). There are several possible alignments of Option 7, two of which are illustrated here. The steepness and length of the uphill travel required on the Kootenay Route and Option 7i are particularly challenging. The Skeena Route is similar in steepness but shorter in grade than those two routes.]
  • The IWMB Joint Committee has yet to assess the document fully and determine any changes to the strategy and timelines proposed (which were endorsed by the NS Committee last meeting). If so the VACC position paper will be re-presented for NS review.

North Vancouver BMP update (John/Jay)

  • CNV provided a web page link for the forum material (boards with maps) http://www.cnv.org/c/data/3/690/Bicycle_Master_Plan_Update_Open_House_Boards.pdf
  • Antje had the following input by email - "none of the maps showed important destinations (schools, shopping centres, community centres) so it's hard to see whether the bike network connects to them or not. Also a lot of bike routes seem to miss (short) connections to nearby routes - but perhaps that's just a mapping/software problem ... happy to see ... a link across the highway near Cedar Village and a new bridge across Lynn Creek."
  • Dave Perfitt contributed "Reallocating curb to curb road widths with paint is lower cost metrics with higher 'KM's of bike lanes' metrics. For an alternate example, I'd like to see a spot improvement at 11th and Lonsdale. There is a ped signal that should be adapted to a bike signal too. I mentioned it ... but the rub I got from Staff was that it would be a distraction from the continued extensions of the 13th Street bike lanes."

Other Business