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*** Option 3 Hoskins (southbound) is a much quieter road, nicer to ride along. This route also provides some bikelanes on Dempsey (an official bike route, but fairly lightly used and a relatively low priority one)
*** Option 3 Hoskins (southbound) is a much quieter road, nicer to ride along. This route also provides some bikelanes on Dempsey (an official bike route, but fairly lightly used and a relatively low priority one)
** Other Ideas?
** Other Ideas?
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**We prefer Option 1: Lanes both sides of Lynn Valley Road.
**We prefer Option 1: Lanes both sides of Lynn Valley Road.
***Our 2nd choice is Option 3: One-way loop
***Our 2nd choice is Option 3: One-way loop
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*Dovercourt intersection improvements:
*Dovercourt intersection improvements:
**We prefer option 2.
**We prefer option 2.
**Comments:
**Comments: Option 1 creates a complicated intersection with many options and flows. It's a potentially high-speed pinch point for people in cars, on bikes, on the downhill. As most crashes and injuries occur at intersections, I strongly advise going with the simpler design of Option 2. This also will reduce car/truck traffic on Dovercourt, improving it as an alternative and local community route to Kilmer park. It is already the preferred route I take with my family from Lynn Valley Centre to Kilmer Park and End of the line.
***Option 1 creates a complicated intersection with many options and flows. It's a potentially high-speed pinch point for people in cars, on bikes, on the downhill. As most crashes and injuries occur at intersections, I strongly advise going with the simpler design of Option 2. This also will reduce car/truck traffic on Dovercourt, improving it as an alternative and local community route to Kilmer park. It is already a preferred route many take from from north of Lynn Valley Centre to Kilmer Park and End of the line.



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Revision as of 22:49, 19 May 2023

Public input is critical when Council and Staff make trade-offs and decisions.
Please make sure your voice is heard!!

The Section titles below are linked to the surveys.

Upper Lynn Valley Road - Peters to Dempsey

  • Continuing the Safety improvements including bikelanes, that were installed on Lynn Valley Rd between the Town Centre (Mtn Hwy) and Peters Rd in 2022.
    • Open House - Thursday, May 26, 3:30pm - 7:30pm, Karen Magnussen Community Recreation Centre, Eagle Room
  • Link to the Survey now open until June 5th, 2023 (~10 mins, 6 webpages with mostly multiple choice)

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  • Some things you may want to consider when completing the survey:
  • Priorities:
    • 1. Safety for people should be a higher priority than parking.
    • 2. Ungap the map = A connected network of routes to access all the places safely, quickly, and efficiently for people walking, and people on bikes - at least as connected a network - if not more so - than for people in cars.
    • 3. While the concept of balance is important. The past 100 years of car-focused development and people walking and people riding bikes shunted to small sections of public-right-of-way demonstrates there is a lot of space to be returned to people walking, people on bikes, and transit - than is currently occupied by car & truck use. So true balance, will not hesitate to take space from car & truck use, as we are currently so out-of-balance.


    • We feel that all 3 Cycling options are quite usable.
      • Option 1 is most direct but will remove heavily used parking, pushing congestion into the neighbourhood. (DW: this is not necessarily the case. Traffic "evaporates" when it is less useful than other modes)
      • Option 2 is almost as direct but preserves the most heavily used parking. Cycling along Kilmer park will be nicer than along LV Rd. The crossing at Kilmer Rd needs to be safe.
      • Option 3 Hoskins (southbound) is a much quieter road, nicer to ride along. This route also provides some bikelanes on Dempsey (an official bike route, but fairly lightly used and a relatively low priority one)
    • Other Ideas?
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    • We prefer Option 1: Lanes both sides of Lynn Valley Road.
      • Our 2nd choice is Option 3: One-way loop
      • Our 3rd choice is Option 2: with the MUP (Mutli-use Pathway) through Kilmer park
  • Comments on the route choices:
    • We prefer the most obvious to the most people and most direct route, as it will result in the least confusion - even with wayfinding signage.
      • If Option 2 allowed space for a bus lane that bypassed vehicle traffic, that would be a reasonable reason to go with Option 2.
      • The steepness of the downhill on Hoskins would require:
        • 1. Options for confident cyclists to exit and re-enter the protected lane.
        • 2. Signage that says "Cyclist may use full lane" to reduce agression from vehicle drivers thinking "a person on a bike should be in the bike lane"


  • Sidewalks:
    • We support all the additional sidewalks proposed.
    • Intersection improvements: We support all the improvements to the crossings. The raised intersection at LV Road and Dempsey is particularly worthwhile. Excellent proposal.

We suggest making the crossings level at grade as this will improve access for people walking and people with mobility challenges, as well as help control traffic speed on this downhill stretch that often sees cars & trucks exceed the posted limit significantly.

  • Bus Stop improvements:
    • support all of the bus stop amenity improvements.
    • We believe good bus routes, and as frequent as possible buses during peak times - such as every 5 minutes - will support the best alternative access to this busy park for all metro vancouver. More bus traffic is the best chance for reducing car traffic on this route, improving safety for those living, walking, biking, _and driving_ on this route.

Pay attention to the safety and convenience of crossings to access the bus routes both on LV road and to Underwood Ave.

  • Dovercourt intersection improvements:
    • We prefer option 2.
    • Comments:
      • Option 1 creates a complicated intersection with many options and flows. It's a potentially high-speed pinch point for people in cars, on bikes, on the downhill. As most crashes and injuries occur at intersections, I strongly advise going with the simpler design of Option 2. This also will reduce car/truck traffic on Dovercourt, improving it as an alternative and local community route to Kilmer park. It is already a preferred route many take from from north of Lynn Valley Centre to Kilmer Park and End of the line.