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===General===
 
===General===
* Elections & Roles - need input
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* '''Elections & Roles''' - need input
 
**Chair & Vice Chair
 
**Chair & Vice Chair
 
**Municipal Liaison teams
 
**Municipal Liaison teams
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*Yahoo Email replacement
 
*Yahoo Email replacement
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** Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/hub-north-shore (test run)
** Google Groups
 
 
**Groups.io
 
**Groups.io
   
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*Bikes Mean Business Campaign
*Draft Whitepaper on economic impacts of installing bike lanes.
 
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**On pause
**Erika working on 1 page infographic slide
 
   
 
*HUB State of Cycling project
 
*HUB State of Cycling project
 
**Request for Photos of good infrastructure
 
**Request for Photos of good infrastructure
 
**Classification definitions v5.7 released
 
**Classification definitions v5.7 released
**Draft of NS map verification.
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**'''Draft of NS map verification.'''
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*Cards for our partners
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**Photos of 2019 improvements to be put on thank you cards for municipalities, MOTI
  +
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*Meetings with MLAs schedule
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*Cycling Without Age Trishaws -
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**HUB North Shore Donation
   
 
*All Committee Workshop
 
*All Committee Workshop
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***Paul A - replied to
 
***Paul A - replied to
 
***Michael S - replied to
 
***Michael S - replied to
***Jacob H -
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***Jacob H - replied to
 
**Marine Drive between Fell & Keith -
 
**Marine Drive between Fell & Keith -
 
**2nd Narrows to Cap U - provided recommend routes
 
**2nd Narrows to Cap U - provided recommend routes
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**Priority Routes in CNV
 
 
Follow-up:
 
Follow-up:
 
**Jill re: Jones overpass baffles (see CNV below) - Erika
 
**Jill re: Jones overpass baffles (see CNV below) - Erika
 
**Sacha re: secure weatherproof bike parking at schools - Who?
 
**Sacha re: secure weatherproof bike parking at schools - Who?
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===Events - Fred ===
 
===Events - Fred ===
 
*Fall Bike to Work Week - Oct 21-25 2019
 
*Fall Bike to Work Week - Oct 21-25 2019
** Celebration station Oct 22 at NE and of 2nd narrows 4-6:30pm
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** Celebration station Oct 22 at NE and of 2nd narrows
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===City of North Vancouver - Erika/Heather===
 
===City of North Vancouver - Erika/Heather===
 
*'''Walk CNV'''
 
City's walking plan WALK CNV was adopted at Council Sept 9. It is pedestrian focused but according to Tony: "Among many many goodies is a commitment to develop a strategy for MUPs to manage safety for pedestrians as volumes increase." We need to push for separated cycling facilities as MUPs largely inappropriate for commuting and focuses too much on cycling just for recreation. See next item for potential inroad.
 
 
*'''Council's 2018-2022 strategic plan'''
 
Envisions providing active and sustainable and ways for people to move around as part of the broader "healthiest small city in the world" vision.
 
https://www.cnv.org/your-government/mayor-and-council/council-strategic-plan
 
   
 
*'''Esplanade Protected Bike Lanes.'''
 
*'''Esplanade Protected Bike Lanes.'''
 
A new protected bike lane will be ready shortly along the Prominade development. This design has room for sidewalk, trees, bike lane, trees then car lane. there will be a textured surface separating the sidewalk and bike lane (similar to Carrall St approaching Expo Blvd in Vancouver) with the street trees between the bike lane and the curb. It will set the precedent for any new lanes.
 
A new protected bike lane will be ready shortly along the Prominade development. This design has room for sidewalk, trees, bike lane, trees then car lane. there will be a textured surface separating the sidewalk and bike lane (similar to Carrall St approaching Expo Blvd in Vancouver) with the street trees between the bike lane and the curb. It will set the precedent for any new lanes.
 
**A design concept for Esplanade was presented to ITC Oct 2 - HUB has asked for a copy to review.
 
**A design concept for Esplanade was presented to ITC Oct 2 - HUB has asked for a copy to review.
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**See http://gispublic.cnv.org/apps/bline.html for more detail on design related to B-Line changes
**Final concept will be presented to council in October - Council will approve or not. If approved the concepts will go to public consultation.
 
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**It has its own project budget due to $5m price tag and complexity
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**Timeline: Consultation and design: 2020, construction: 2021
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** See November 4 council meeting package for staff report https://www.cnv.org/your-government/council-meetings
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**Thank you to those who wrote letters
   
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*'''Priority Corridors for AAA Mobility Lanes passed'''
*'''New Mosquito Creek Bridge''' there will be wide sidewalks for peds and cyclists and a pathway underneath to connect to the trail, though with the off Marine bike route, the Marine Drive bike lanes are not likely to stay. ** Marine Dr [https://www.cnv.org/Property-and-Development/Projects-and-Developments/Major-Studies-and-Projects/Mosquito-Creek-Bridge-Replacement Mosquito Creek Bridge]
 
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** Council to direct staff to proceed with the phased implementation of the Recommended Priority Corridors, following the Planning and Implementation Strategy process, as outlined in the report; planning and design for these priority AAA mobility lane corridors to consider opportunities to accommodate the needs and abilities for other non- pedestrian and non-auto modes of travel, including e-bikes, scooters and skateboards.
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** Short term route plans overlap reasonably well with HUB NS priorities. We gave our input to staff on the priority routes including the need to fill gaps and to prioritize routes in the densest areas (most potential)
   
 
*'''New Mosquito Creek Bridge''' there will be wide sidewalks for peds and cyclists and a pathway underneath to connect to the trail, though with the off Marine bike route, the Marine Drive bike lanes are not likely to stay and some recent changes indicate this. ** Marine Dr [https://www.cnv.org/Property-and-Development/Projects-and-Developments/Major-Studies-and-Projects/Mosquito-Creek-Bridge-Replacement Mosquito Creek Bridge]
*'''Mackay MUP''' Parking has been removed in some segments. A wide MUP has been constructed on top of the dyke being built for flood mitigation and there will also be bike lanes on both sides with parked car buffers in places. Should be done soon. No sign yet of bike lanes and the MUP itself had not yet been finished as of this past week. Road is in poor condition next to the unpaved part of the MUP. Connection to other side of Marine remains to be seen.
 
   
 
*'''Mackay MUP''' A wide MUP has been constructed on top of the dyke being built for flood mitigation and there will also apparently be bike lanes on both sides with parked car buffers in places. As of last ride, incomplete striped bike lanes and the MUP itself had not yet been finished. Road was in poor condition next to the unpaved part of the MUP. Connection to other side of Marine remains to be seen.
*'''New building at 3rd and Chesterfield''' now has an asphalt off-street bike path next to it but as of last Saturday had an obstacle on the path still. North side in front of 7-11 remains a constant issue.
 
   
 
* '''[https://www.cnv.org/get-involved/committees/integrated-transportation-committee Integrated Transportation Committee]''' -
*''' Bikes Mean Business and the Lower Lonsdale BIA Central Lonsdale'''
 
Engagement and infographic forthcoming.
 
 
* Oct 7th - Delegation to Council.
 
 
* ""[https://www.cnv.org/get-involved/committees/integrated-transportation-committee Integrated Transportation Committee]"" -
 
 
**How do we get HUB representative on this committee - appointments start 1-Feb-2020 for 2 years
 
**How do we get HUB representative on this committee - appointments start 1-Feb-2020 for 2 years
 
**We need a representative to attend these monthly meetings
 
**We need a representative to attend these monthly meetings
 
** Brent Hillier is currently on it.
 
** Brent Hillier is currently on it.
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** Erika has applied to Climate and Environment Advisory Task force for which zero emissions transportation is a topic
   
 
=== District of North Vancouver - Jay/Giacomo/Ryan ===
 
=== District of North Vancouver - Jay/Giacomo/Ryan ===
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**discussion on potential "Low Level" and "Creek to Peak" route options
 
**discussion on potential "Low Level" and "Creek to Peak" route options
 
**integration with MOTI work on Lower Lynn next phases
 
**integration with MOTI work on Lower Lynn next phases
* Follow up to pursue gap closure options for Lions Gate Bridge to McGuire / W 15th bike route
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* Follow up to pursue gap closure options for Lions Gate Bridge to McGuire / W 15th bike route
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* Seymour Estates redevelopment (Mount Seymour Parkway and Lytton) - potential to push for better infrastructure along frontage [https://seymourestates.ca/] The developer is planning to provide a large bike room at grade with secure enclosures for bikes.
 
* Ongoing correspondence with Steve Ono regarding delineators on Riverside Drive - these are generating close passes and driver aggression - request for signage / markings so it is clear bikes may take lane
 
* Ongoing correspondence with Steve Ono regarding delineators on Riverside Drive - these are generating close passes and driver aggression - request for signage / markings so it is clear bikes may take lane
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* Issues tracker: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L9ijyAcE6jlN8qWItp0y3A8fMr8jyTiIp8Q8RZwAg9I/edit?usp=sharing]
 
* 20 in 20 updates?
 
* 20 in 20 updates?
   
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===District of West Vancouver - Peter===
 
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*Hugo Ray connector
 
 
===District of West Vancouver - Paul/Peter===
**Signage
 
 
*Hugo Ray connector Completed
**[[Media:Hugo_Ray_-_looking_west_from_Hwy1_Capilano_bridge_2019-08-08_IMG_2437.JPG|Klee Wyck to 3rd]]
 
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**Paul as well as Mayor Booth & Bowinn Ma spoke at opening ceremony
*HUB NS delegation presentation to the mayor and council
 
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**Mayor Booth & Councillor S both excited by upper-levels greenway project
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*Welch Street Spirit Trail bumps are permanent per Squamish Council.
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*Is there interest to have HUB explore opportunities to transform Welch Street into a one-way single lane westbound and create a two way cycling path on the east bound lane. This could be tested as a pilot to work out the kinks and get driving public used to it. Planter boxes worked well on the Spirit Trail in WV. The arguments for this dedicated and protected bike path might include: 1) Shoppers wanting to stop at Park Royal during the evening rush hour are not impacted. 2) East bound vehicle traffic tends to be “rat-running” in the mornings by those avoiding Marine Drive. 3) A two way cycle path improves safety of cyclists. 4) cyclists are not well served on Marine Drive which lacks a protected bike route and cyclists must share lane with buses.
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*Need to get the mayor and council informed and excited about our top priority Dundave to Cap Rd route.
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===Communications & Outreach - Heather/Antje/James/Martyn===
 
===Communications & Outreach - Heather/Antje/James/Martyn===
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**Yahoo Group -
 
**Yahoo Group -
 
**Twitter - Antje sends out local news
 
**Twitter - Antje sends out local news
**FaceBook - James has offered to maintain a HUB NS account
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**FaceBook - Heather started open Facebook group
**HUB membership (NS)
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**HUB membership (NS) possible monthly newsletter
 
*Communications
 
*Communications
 
**Upcoming HUB Events & meetings
 
**Upcoming HUB Events & meetings
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*Create a library of good/bad infrastructure on the North Shore
 
*Create a library of good/bad infrastructure on the North Shore
 
**Need a volunteer(s) and a list of locations.
 
**Need a volunteer(s) and a list of locations.
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===BC Ferries - Peter S===
 
===BC Ferries - Peter S===
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* HSB Terminal input now closed. Our key issues:
* [https://www.bcferries.com/about/hsbterminal/ online public input form] - Key points to raise:
 
 
**Access to Ticket Booths from both Highway and Spirit Trail
 
**Access to Ticket Booths from both Highway and Spirit Trail
 
**Holding areas for Cyclists
 
**Holding areas for Cyclists
 
**Protected Bikepath from terminal to Exit 0 (Spirit Trail) and also to Highway shoulder
 
**Protected Bikepath from terminal to Exit 0 (Spirit Trail) and also to Highway shoulder
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* Interisland Ferry design consultation just starting - need link
   
   
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===ANYTHING NEW this month? Translink - Fred/Antje===
 
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* e-Bikes on Buses - Update on HUB HQ discussions with TransLink
 
 
===Translink - Fred/Antje===
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* e-Bikes on Buses
 
* Bike parking at Exchanges:
 
* Bike parking at Exchanges:
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** letter to Translink re Lonsdale Quay -pinged Rex, still no response, how to escalate??
 
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** Also want space for future at Phibbs (and for bike share)
 
 
 
 
 
 
=== MOTI - Antje/Giacomo/Jay===
 
=== MOTI - Antje/Giacomo/Jay===
*Lions Gate Bridge and Causeway project this winter/spring to maintain reversible lane lights system
 
**Antje met with MOTI staff
 
**work will take place along the road and on the sidewalks where the electrical boxes are
 
**construction management for cyclists will be the same as during the construction of the Causeway pathways
 
**bridge work will be done only at night and cyclists will be detoured from sidewalk onto car lane closed to car traffic
 
 
*Mountain Highway Interchange
 
*Mountain Highway Interchange
**Interim intersection complete, pathway complete to Shavington on west side, underpass to Lynnmouth cul-de-sac paved but still blocked while finishing works underway
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**Interim intersection complete, pathway complete to Shavington on west side, underpass to Lynnmouth cul-de-sac paved but finishing works underway
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**We provided final input on remaining issues to project manager Jay Porter
 
*Ironworkers Memorial Bridge
 
*Ironworkers Memorial Bridge
**Fencing gaps have been closed. No response to our letter on this, nor any changes to wayfinding.
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**Fencing gaps have been closed. No response to our letter on this and other maintenance issues nor any changes to wayfinding
 
*Lower Lynn Interchanges next phases
 
*Lower Lynn Interchanges next phases
 
**Provided marked up comments to Jay Porter on Phases 1 through 4 signage and pavement marking plans. Key concerns are dismount locations northbound Mountain Highway at project limit and two-stage crossing of Dollarton Ramp.
 
**Provided marked up comments to Jay Porter on Phases 1 through 4 signage and pavement marking plans. Key concerns are dismount locations northbound Mountain Highway at project limit and two-stage crossing of Dollarton Ramp.
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*Hwy 1 North Shore Corridor Study Lynn Valley to Horseshoe Bay
*Upper Levels Planning Study
 
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**Review and update priority improvements in MOTI jurisdiction
**High level planning study being done for the remaining north shore interchanges (west of Mountain). Need to ensure cycling input.
 
   
 
===Other===
 
===Other===
   
 
====RCMP====
 
====RCMP====
* joined us for a publicity campaign on Bike Theft & 529 at BTWW
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* joined us for a publicity campaign on Bike Theft & 529 Garage at BTWW & would like to attend again in spring
* were pleased to hear of Jay's success in quickly getting his stolen bike back through the 529 app
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* were pleased to hear of Jay's success in quickly getting his stolen bike back thanks to the 529 Garage app alert and police diligence.
   
 
====Bike to School====
 
====Bike to School====

Latest revision as of 17:49, 14 November 2019

HUB North Shore Committee holds regular meetings at 6:30pm - 8:30pm on the second Thursday of every month. Everybody is welcome. The meetings are at the North Vancouver City Library (14th/Lonsdale) in the Don Preston Boardroom (2nd floor).

  • Agenda additions
  • Introductions


Goals & Objectives


General

  • Elections & Roles - need input
    • Chair & Vice Chair
    • Municipal Liaison teams
      • CNV ITC, DNV TTP? representatives
      • Council Monitors
    • MoTI, TransLink, BCFerries Liaison teams
    • Events Coordinators
    • Communications Team
    • Developer Liaison
    • Schools Liaison
    • Membership
    • Other??
  • Bikes Mean Business Campaign
    • On pause
  • HUB State of Cycling project
    • Request for Photos of good infrastructure
    • Classification definitions v5.7 released
    • Draft of NS map verification.
  • Cards for our partners
    • Photos of 2019 improvements to be put on thank you cards for municipalities, MOTI
  • Meetings with MLAs schedule
  • Cycling Without Age Trishaws -
    • HUB North Shore Donation
  • All Committee Workshop
    • Thurs, November 28, 5:30 - 8:30 pm, at HUB HQ
    • Social & Assessment Rides
    • BC Design Guide Dialog
  • Letters/Emails
    • Spirit Trail - Welsh & Capilano Rd speed bumps:
      • Paula B - just cc'ed, Vanessa replied
      • Ken T - replied to
      • Scott M - replied to
      • Alan B - replied to
      • R B - replied to
      • Paul A - replied to
      • Michael S - replied to
      • Jacob H - replied to
    • Marine Drive between Fell & Keith -
    • 2nd Narrows to Cap U - provided recommend routes
    • Priority Routes in CNV

Follow-up:

    • Jill re: Jones overpass baffles (see CNV below) - Erika
    • Sacha re: secure weatherproof bike parking at schools - Who?


Events - Fred

  • Fall Bike to Work Week - Oct 21-25 2019
    • Celebration station Oct 22 at NE and of 2nd narrows


City of North Vancouver - Erika/Heather

  • Esplanade Protected Bike Lanes.

A new protected bike lane will be ready shortly along the Prominade development. This design has room for sidewalk, trees, bike lane, trees then car lane. there will be a textured surface separating the sidewalk and bike lane (similar to Carrall St approaching Expo Blvd in Vancouver) with the street trees between the bike lane and the curb. It will set the precedent for any new lanes.

    • A design concept for Esplanade was presented to ITC Oct 2 - HUB has asked for a copy to review.
    • See http://gispublic.cnv.org/apps/bline.html for more detail on design related to B-Line changes
    • It has its own project budget due to $5m price tag and complexity
    • Timeline: Consultation and design: 2020, construction: 2021
    • See November 4 council meeting package for staff report https://www.cnv.org/your-government/council-meetings
    • Thank you to those who wrote letters
  • Priority Corridors for AAA Mobility Lanes passed
    • Council to direct staff to proceed with the phased implementation of the Recommended Priority Corridors, following the Planning and Implementation Strategy process, as outlined in the report; planning and design for these priority AAA mobility lane corridors to consider opportunities to accommodate the needs and abilities for other non- pedestrian and non-auto modes of travel, including e-bikes, scooters and skateboards.
    • Short term route plans overlap reasonably well with HUB NS priorities. We gave our input to staff on the priority routes including the need to fill gaps and to prioritize routes in the densest areas (most potential)
  • New Mosquito Creek Bridge there will be wide sidewalks for peds and cyclists and a pathway underneath to connect to the trail, though with the off Marine bike route, the Marine Drive bike lanes are not likely to stay and some recent changes indicate this. ** Marine Dr Mosquito Creek Bridge
  • Mackay MUP A wide MUP has been constructed on top of the dyke being built for flood mitigation and there will also apparently be bike lanes on both sides with parked car buffers in places. As of last ride, incomplete striped bike lanes and the MUP itself had not yet been finished. Road was in poor condition next to the unpaved part of the MUP. Connection to other side of Marine remains to be seen.
  • Integrated Transportation Committee -
    • How do we get HUB representative on this committee - appointments start 1-Feb-2020 for 2 years
    • We need a representative to attend these monthly meetings
    • Brent Hillier is currently on it.
    • Erika has applied to Climate and Environment Advisory Task force for which zero emissions transportation is a topic

District of North Vancouver - Jay/Giacomo/Ryan

  • 29th Street protected bike lanes (Tempe Cres to Lynn Valley Rd)
    • work is nearing completion
    • send thank you to councillors and those who sent supporting emails
  • Lynn Valley Town Centre infrastructure
    • protected bike lanes being completed through new "Town Centre Connector" extension of E29th from Lynn Valley Road to E27th
    • protected bike lanes also coming for E27th from Mountain to "Town Centre Connector" and future "Creek to Peak" bikeway. Road is currently closed to accommodate this construction
  • Targeted OCP Review
    • Public consultation underway. Make sure to add online feedback on transportation / climate emergency priorities
  • Weekly Traffic Bulletin
    • Updated every Friday on DNV website and highlights not only construction closures / work zones but the purpose of the closures (i.e. new bike lanes, sidewalks etc)
  • Feedback discussion from Council Transportation Workshop - November 4, 2019
    • Parking management and bike network priorities were the key topics
  • Last meeting with Staff- October 8, 2019
    • discussion on potential "Low Level" and "Creek to Peak" route options
    • integration with MOTI work on Lower Lynn next phases
  • Follow up to pursue gap closure options for Lions Gate Bridge to McGuire / W 15th bike route
  • Seymour Estates redevelopment (Mount Seymour Parkway and Lytton) - potential to push for better infrastructure along frontage [1] The developer is planning to provide a large bike room at grade with secure enclosures for bikes.
  • Ongoing correspondence with Steve Ono regarding delineators on Riverside Drive - these are generating close passes and driver aggression - request for signage / markings so it is clear bikes may take lane
  • Issues tracker: [2]
  • 20 in 20 updates?


District of West Vancouver - Paul/Peter

  • Hugo Ray connector Completed
    • Paul as well as Mayor Booth & Bowinn Ma spoke at opening ceremony
    • Mayor Booth & Councillor S both excited by upper-levels greenway project
  • Welch Street Spirit Trail bumps are permanent per Squamish Council.
  • Is there interest to have HUB explore opportunities to transform Welch Street into a one-way single lane westbound and create a two way cycling path on the east bound lane. This could be tested as a pilot to work out the kinks and get driving public used to it. Planter boxes worked well on the Spirit Trail in WV. The arguments for this dedicated and protected bike path might include: 1) Shoppers wanting to stop at Park Royal during the evening rush hour are not impacted. 2) East bound vehicle traffic tends to be “rat-running” in the mornings by those avoiding Marine Drive. 3) A two way cycle path improves safety of cyclists. 4) cyclists are not well served on Marine Drive which lacks a protected bike route and cyclists must share lane with buses.
  • Need to get the mayor and council informed and excited about our top priority Dundave to Cap Rd route.


Communications & Outreach - Heather/Antje/James/Martyn

  • Channels
    • Yahoo Group -
    • Twitter - Antje sends out local news
    • FaceBook - Heather started open Facebook group
    • HUB membership (NS) possible monthly newsletter
  • Communications
    • Upcoming HUB Events & meetings
    • Current cycling news & NS Issues
    • Publicizing opportunities to provide input (Public meetings, online surveys, ...)
    • Request for support of improvements & projects
    • Annual committee update - Don
  • How to expand our reach & effectiveness
    • Other groups - Cycle clubs, NSMBA
    • Local media (NS News & Global Canadian)
    • Any other ideas
    • Presentations to Councils, business groups(BIA), schools? ...
  • Recruiting "interested but concerned" people
    • Membership coordinator?
    • Update the HUB-NS recruiting card
    • adopt-a-gap
    • reach out to people who cc us on letters/emails to governments.
  • Create a library of good/bad infrastructure on the North Shore
    • Need a volunteer(s) and a list of locations.


BC Ferries - Peter S

  • HSB Terminal input now closed. Our key issues:
    • Access to Ticket Booths from both Highway and Spirit Trail
    • Holding areas for Cyclists
    • Protected Bikepath from terminal to Exit 0 (Spirit Trail) and also to Highway shoulder
  • Interisland Ferry design consultation just starting - need link



Translink - Fred/Antje

  • e-Bikes on Buses
  • Bike parking at Exchanges:



MOTI - Antje/Giacomo/Jay

  • Mountain Highway Interchange
    • Interim intersection complete, pathway complete to Shavington on west side, underpass to Lynnmouth cul-de-sac paved but finishing works underway
    • We provided final input on remaining issues to project manager Jay Porter
  • Ironworkers Memorial Bridge
    • Fencing gaps have been closed. No response to our letter on this and other maintenance issues nor any changes to wayfinding
  • Lower Lynn Interchanges next phases
    • Provided marked up comments to Jay Porter on Phases 1 through 4 signage and pavement marking plans. Key concerns are dismount locations northbound Mountain Highway at project limit and two-stage crossing of Dollarton Ramp.
  • Hwy 1 North Shore Corridor Study Lynn Valley to Horseshoe Bay
    • Review and update priority improvements in MOTI jurisdiction

Other

RCMP

  • joined us for a publicity campaign on Bike Theft & 529 Garage at BTWW & would like to attend again in spring
  • were pleased to hear of Jay's success in quickly getting his stolen bike back thanks to the 529 Garage app alert and police diligence.

Bike to School

  • Should we have a Liaison to other groups and/or the school district?
  • we have had 2 interested parties