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In 1992, the Cassiar Connector was constructed and the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge was modestly refurbished (lighting changed, median installed and barriers/railings installed between the traffic and the sidewalks, narrowing the sidewalks but making it less heart-stoppingly perilous to ride in a stiff crosswind). At the time, cycling advocates asked for wider sidewalks and better access to the bridge. The result was somewhat better access on the north side of the bridge and the situation we have now on the south side. |
In 1992, the Cassiar Connector was constructed and the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge was modestly refurbished (lighting changed, median installed and barriers/railings installed between the traffic and the sidewalks, narrowing the sidewalks but making it less heart-stoppingly perilous to ride in a stiff crosswind). At the time, cycling advocates asked for wider sidewalks and better access to the bridge. The result was somewhat better access on the north side of the bridge and the situation we have now on the south side. |
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| ⚫ | As part of the consultation for the Gateway Program (introduced in 2006), advocates asked the province to upgrade cycling and pedestrian access on the south side by, among other things, providing a connection between the east and west sidewalks. This could be either under the bridge (as at the south end of Lion’s Gate) or over the highway, connecting to the elevated sidewalk/bike path on the east side and therefore needing a ramp structure only on the west side. This request was deemed “beyond the scope of the project”, which ended just short of the bridge head. |
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About 8 or 10 years ago cycling advocates, municipal staff and provincial staff got together to determine the best way to regulate the bridge sidewalks. The consensus result was the arrangement now in place – cyclists can use either side but “wrong-way” cyclists must yield. |
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In 2015, the sidewalks on the bridge were widened and higher fencing installed, along with minor adjustments to the Dollarton off-ramp crossing at the northeast end. Although the sidewalks were widened to 2.5 m from 1.2 m, the resulting clear width does not meet guidelines for bi-directional use. Pedestrians may use either sidewalk, however, cyclists are directed to use the east sidewalk to travel northbound and the west sidewalk to travel southbound. Some signage has been installed to deter wrong way movements, however, there is some remaining "yield to oncoming cyclists" signage remaining and additional positive guidance required on both approaches. |
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| ⚫ | As part of the Gateway |
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=== Crossing times === |
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Approximate times taken for a cyclist to cross the bridge in the 'correct' lane (with traffic flow) without delays to pass other bikes or pedestrians: |
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* Southbound on the west lane >>> 6:45 min |
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* Northbound on the east land >>> TBD |
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=== Potential one-way rule for cyclists === |
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Pros: |
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* Better traffic flow |
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** Reduces need to slow down or stop to let opposing cyclists pass |
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** Allows an increasing number of cyclists to use the bridge efficiently |
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* Improved safety at Dollarton off ramp and Main Street on ramp due to reduced risk from bike collisions where there is no barrier between the sidewalk and the TCH |
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* Improved accessibility for and passing of wider-than-normal bikes (bikes with trailers, electric bike scooters, tricycles, etc.) |
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Cons: |
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* Need to use Skeena Tunnel connection as the primary link between east and west bridge sidewalks at the south end of the bridge |
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** Additional distance for cyclists going from North Vancouver to Burnaby/Vancouver Adanac, from Vancouver Portside to North Vancouver |
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** Additional elevation gain for cyclists going from North Vancouver to Burnaby/Vancouver Adanac, from Vancouver Portside to North Vancouver because sidewalk along the McGill on ramp goes uphill before dropping down to the bridge head, adding unnecessary elevation gain |
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** Most cars don’t stop at crosswalk on Skeena St where access to shared bike path starts |
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* Minor (if any) improvement to traffic flow |
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** The problem remains that the sidewalks are too narrow for cyclists to pass when going the same direction. If the number of cyclists on the bridge keeps increasing, this may be a more significant bottleneck than slowing down for cyclists going the other way. |
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=== Additional time taken & distance to use the 'correct' (with traffic flow) lane === |
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* From Vancouver Portside route to the bridge east lane to go north >>> less than 1 minute extra with about 500m more to ride (through the Skeena tunnel up to the connector to the east lane and onto the bridge - including the minimal extra climbing) |
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* From North Vancouver coming off the bridge west lane to go south >>> less than 1.5 minutes extra (down the switchback and through the Skeena tunnel up to the connector to the east lane to turn left to the south e.g. E Hastings Street) |
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=== Other issues === |
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* Sidewalks are very narrow |
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** Two cyclists going into the same direction cannot pass, which is a problem given the length and elevation gain of the bridge |
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** Two way cycling is allowed where two cyclists or a cyclist and a pedestrian can't safely pass |
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* Approaches and exits are dangerous and difficult |
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* Way-finding signage to and from bridge is insufficient |
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* Chain link fence between the sidewalk and the TCH on-ramp north bound from McGill |
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** Feeling of being locked in between the steep bank and the fence |
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** If anything happens there is no easy way to get help or attention (safety concern) |
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=== NS-VACC Objectives === |
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* Wider riding path that allows cyclists to pass |
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* Improved infrastructure to accommodate cyclists from all directions to safely reach objectives |
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* Better way-finding signage |
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=== Action === |
=== Action === |
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On October |
On October 25 2010 a joint committee was formed between the North Shore, Vancouver and Burnaby committees to formulate a plan for moving forward. All VACC (now HUB) members were welcome to attend the monthly meetings. |
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* MEETING MINUTES |
* MEETING MINUTES |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Feb 28 2011.pdf]] |
[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Feb 28 2011.pdf]] |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Mar 28 2011.pdf]] |
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=== Bridge lane safety hazards === |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 09 May 2011.pdf]] |
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Significant risks of accidents and injuries arise from the current design of the bridge lane railings, entry/exit points, concrete railing supports and expansion gap covers. |
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[[Media:IWMB minutes May 30 2011.pdf]] |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 27 June 2011.pdf]] |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 08 Aug 2011.pdf]] |
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Actual measurements of the pinch points created by bridge railing supports are documented here: |
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[[Media:Second Narrows Bridge Minutes Oct 3 2011.pdf]] |
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NE end: |
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* 120 cm between round green outside top railing and steel rub railing separating cyclists from traffic |
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* 124 cm between vertical green rails and bracket (support) of steel rub railing (handle bar height) |
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* bracket (support) of steel rub railing is 102 cm from surface of sidewalk |
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* 110 cm between steel railing and concrete post (narrowest point) |
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[[Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 07 Nov 2011.pdf]] |
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NW end: |
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* 103 cm between steel railing and concrete post (narrowest point) |
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In August of 2019, in response to complaints regarding sidewalk use and wayfinding, the Ministry's Operations Manager reiterated that in order for a lane or path to be used in both directions by cyclists, the minimum width must be three metres, which is why they installed signs showing the preferred direction of travel across the bridge for cyclists (i.e. northbound east side, southbound west side). |
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SE end: |
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* 123 cm between the steel railing and the 1st concrete post (travelling north) |
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* 115 cm between steel railing and 2nd concrete post (disused passing bay) |
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* 107.5 cm between steel railing and 3rd concrete post (other end of disused passing bay) (narrowest point) |
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They acknowledged correspondence from cyclists using the bridge, complaining about the links on both ends of the structure, some of which belong to the Ministry and some to municipalities. The complaints include the additional riding they must do when heading home to East Vancouver and Burnaby if they take the southbound west side sidewalk. Often these riders will take the east sidewalk, for the convenience of the connection to road network on the southeast corner of the bridge. |
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SW end: |
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* 100.5 cm between steel railing and first concrete post (travelling south) (narrowest point) |
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* 102 cm between steel railing and second concrete post |
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* 120 cm at south end of fence separating cyclists from traffic and concrete post |
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As it has been a few years since the signs were last reviewed, District staff are reviewing the current signs and their locations. They will then ask their Traffic Operations engineering group to review the signing on the bridge sidewalks, to determine if they need to be updated or changed to different signs or any new signs need to be added. These may include possible speed limits on the sidewalks of the bridge, "Bell or Yell when overtaking" signs, one way signs if deemed appropriate, or other alternatives. |
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=== Difficult switchbacks on path at SW end of bridge === |
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The Ministry is currently designing the Main/Dollarton interchange as part of the Lower Lynn interchanges project. The cycling connections will be changing as the project is constructed. There will also be including way-finding signs as part of the design and the Project Manager will be reviewing the examples provided by HUB North Shore as part of their review. |
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The switchbacks are dangerous, especially in winter when covered with slippery decaying leaves and a cyclist is coming up the path. |
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=== Old Bridge Sidewalks === |
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[http://northshore.vacc.bc.ca/large_uploads/IWMB_Switchbacks.3GP Video] |
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Photos at the bottom right show the old bridge sidewalks prior to the sidewalk widening project that was completed in 2015. |
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Latest revision as of 19:11, 7 August 2019
Background
In 1992, the Cassiar Connector was constructed and the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge was modestly refurbished (lighting changed, median installed and barriers/railings installed between the traffic and the sidewalks, narrowing the sidewalks but making it less heart-stoppingly perilous to ride in a stiff crosswind). At the time, cycling advocates asked for wider sidewalks and better access to the bridge. The result was somewhat better access on the north side of the bridge and the situation we have now on the south side.
As part of the consultation for the Gateway Program (introduced in 2006), advocates asked the province to upgrade cycling and pedestrian access on the south side by, among other things, providing a connection between the east and west sidewalks. This could be either under the bridge (as at the south end of Lion’s Gate) or over the highway, connecting to the elevated sidewalk/bike path on the east side and therefore needing a ramp structure only on the west side. This request was deemed “beyond the scope of the project”, which ended just short of the bridge head.
In 2015, the sidewalks on the bridge were widened and higher fencing installed, along with minor adjustments to the Dollarton off-ramp crossing at the northeast end. Although the sidewalks were widened to 2.5 m from 1.2 m, the resulting clear width does not meet guidelines for bi-directional use. Pedestrians may use either sidewalk, however, cyclists are directed to use the east sidewalk to travel northbound and the west sidewalk to travel southbound. Some signage has been installed to deter wrong way movements, however, there is some remaining "yield to oncoming cyclists" signage remaining and additional positive guidance required on both approaches.
Action
On October 25 2010 a joint committee was formed between the North Shore, Vancouver and Burnaby committees to formulate a plan for moving forward. All VACC (now HUB) members were welcome to attend the monthly meetings.
- MEETING MINUTES
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Oct 25 2010.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Nov 22 2010.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Jan 24 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Feb 28 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes Mar 28 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 09 May 2011.pdf
Media:IWMB minutes May 30 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 27 June 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 08 Aug 2011.pdf
Media:Second Narrows Bridge Minutes Oct 3 2011.pdf
Media:2nd Narrows Bridge Minutes 07 Nov 2011.pdf
In August of 2019, in response to complaints regarding sidewalk use and wayfinding, the Ministry's Operations Manager reiterated that in order for a lane or path to be used in both directions by cyclists, the minimum width must be three metres, which is why they installed signs showing the preferred direction of travel across the bridge for cyclists (i.e. northbound east side, southbound west side).
They acknowledged correspondence from cyclists using the bridge, complaining about the links on both ends of the structure, some of which belong to the Ministry and some to municipalities. The complaints include the additional riding they must do when heading home to East Vancouver and Burnaby if they take the southbound west side sidewalk. Often these riders will take the east sidewalk, for the convenience of the connection to road network on the southeast corner of the bridge.
As it has been a few years since the signs were last reviewed, District staff are reviewing the current signs and their locations. They will then ask their Traffic Operations engineering group to review the signing on the bridge sidewalks, to determine if they need to be updated or changed to different signs or any new signs need to be added. These may include possible speed limits on the sidewalks of the bridge, "Bell or Yell when overtaking" signs, one way signs if deemed appropriate, or other alternatives.
The Ministry is currently designing the Main/Dollarton interchange as part of the Lower Lynn interchanges project. The cycling connections will be changing as the project is constructed. There will also be including way-finding signs as part of the design and the Project Manager will be reviewing the examples provided by HUB North Shore as part of their review.
Old Bridge Sidewalks
Photos at the bottom right show the old bridge sidewalks prior to the sidewalk widening project that was completed in 2015.